Hello Norman. Fished a small match today on the Alex dock wall. It was dire small whiting, odd dab and flounder and a couple of eels for john Waugh. I managed 2nd biggest flat and got £20 so not a total waste!. Looked perfect for ray but none showed. I,ll be having a little go for bass later on in the week , will report if I do anything good. Tight lines , Steve.