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PostSubject: Boat advice?   28th February 2011, 8:00 pm

Evening boys!
After many a day watching the boats passing the bottom of the field when on holiday in Moelfre Roger the Dodger has finally bought a boat! originally we were going to go halves but i think he got fed up waiting for me to make my mind up! Eventually we have agreed that Roger buys the boat and i go halves on the running costs etc! We havent gone mad for a first boat as its only to potter about just off shore when we are up in Moelfre... so ended up buying a smaller easy to handle boat to see how it goes? We left my missus in charge of the bidding on e-bay and ended up winning a 14 foot dory with a 50 horse Mercury engine.

To be honest when we went to collect it from Anglesey on Saturday morning i was happy to see it was in good condition for its age as was the engine. I know you lads have the knowledge so i'm after a few pointers in the right direction.
Does anybody know....
How much we should expect to pay to insure it?
How much is it to register it, to be able to launch in Anglesey?
How much should we expect to pay to get the engine serviced? (Quoted 150.00 plus parts & vat) at Dulas boats.
How heavy should we be looking at for an anchor? (not planning on going out too far or in rough conditions)
How long would you expect 5 gallons of fuel to last on an engine of this size?
And most importantly... apart from the obvious, flares,compass etc what else should we consider? we did buy a Hummingbird piranha x2 portable fishfinder with the boat but still need to work out how to use it... dont know if we did right but its probabaly better than nothing?

See how it goes.... in time Roger might dip into his bottomless pit and invest in a boat suitable to come and give you lads a run for your money!!!

Thanks for your time Sam.

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PostSubject: Re: Boat advice?   1st March 2011, 9:00 pm

Hi Sam
Good to see your sticking your toes in the water and good luck with the boat.
As to your questions i will try to answer them and point you and Roger in the right direction.

1 Insurance, which you will need to get a launch permit that's apart from the obvious reasons for insurance, here is a link to the company which is the most popular in small boating circles http://www.porthcawl-insurance.co.uk/ they are probably the cheapest but someone could prove me wrong.

2 Registration, being a member of the club you can get free launching within Conwy but you will have to pay for your registration i think it's 20 pound but this registration fee covers Anglesea, Gwynedd and Conwy, you will have to pay for your launch at Moelfre so if you are going to be frequent visitors it will be worth looking at the annual permit, not sure of the cost for the year Sam.

3 Service cost's for outboard, can't help you here Sam but there is a boat section meeting at the clubhouse this Friday at 20-00hrs, there may be someone there who could advise you as to the best place to get the engine serviced, a couple of pints and some good general advise, worth thinking about.

4 Anchor, my choice would be a 5kg bruce anchor with 8mm chain the length of your boat, attach the chain to the nose of the anchor via a galvanised shackle then run the chain up the shaft and secure with a plastic tie or some 50 or 60 lb line then if the anchor gets stuck in foul ground you have a decent chance of retrieving by breaking the weak link and pulling the anchor from the nose, carry a spare, you could use a grapnel type for fishing in rough ground, carry enough rope for the area and depth you will be fishing in, an aproximate rule of thumb is x 3 of the depth so if you are in 60ft = 180ft of rope, pays to carry some spare though.

5 Fuel, the older Mercs were a bit on the thirsty side compared to the new generation of 4 strokes but a lot of factors should be taken into consideration eg sea state, how hard you push the boat etc, it would be good practice to carry a spare tank of fuel ( no petrol stations out there Sam and you cant get out and push ). i would imagine the boat will be pretty quick with 50 horses pushing it so take it steady at first until you get a feel of the boat and how she behave's.

6 Equipment, A VHF radio is a must have to be honest Sam as is good quality life jackets and if your purse can strech to it a chart plotter gives you a picture of the area you are in and can id any hazards etc, also great for storing your fishing marks, if a mist comes down it will get you back home, admiralty charts are always good for planning your day, fishfinder is a must too, you need to know how much water you have under the hull.
A secondry means of propulsion, if you intend on fishing alone (without the company of other boats) it's probably even more important to have an auxillery engine 4hp or above, even a set of oars is better than nothing.
Basic first aid kit, fire extiguisher, warm clothing and waterproofs, let someone know were you are going and when are expected to return, be carefull launching of the beach iv'e seen so many losing their vehicles and boats getting bogged down on a flooding tide, Hope i haven't put you and Roger off by bringing up some of the pitfall's Sam on a positive note on a lovely summer's day there is no better place to be, there's probably 101 things i have not mentioned, enjoy and stay safe.

ps if you were thinking of doing the RYA level 2 boat handling course i can only recommend it, a great course you will learn a lot and it's a fun couple of days.



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PostSubject: Re: Boat advice?   1st March 2011, 11:15 pm

Cheers Gary for taking the time to reply in depth (pardon the pun!) lol!
I will show Roger your post tomorrow and take it from there.
As already said thanks for taking the time to point us in the right direction!
Cheers Sam.
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PostSubject: Re: Boat advice?   2nd March 2011, 6:55 pm

samfishing wrote:
Cheers Gary for taking the time to reply in depth (pardon the pun!) lol!
I will show Roger your post tomorrow and take it from there.
As already said thanks for taking the time to point us in the right direction!
Cheers Sam.

No problem Sam, anytime.
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PostSubject: Re: Boat advice?   10th March 2011, 9:48 pm

This boat lark aint cheep!!! just cost 200 to get the engine serviced!!! and after buying two hand held VHF radios i found out about the licence to own one... and then the one to be able to use it!!! i've told Roger even the wife is less draining on my finances!!! looks like we will be going on one of the RYA 2 day courses as you advise Gary... I hope this covers the VHF radio part as well? otherwise the registration of the radio and the one day course for the radio is over 100?

I think i should have stuck to beach casting!!!
Sam.
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